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Interview of Gov. John Engler

Jim Goenner, Ph.D.John Engler Founder, Oral History 2022 MI

Gov. John Engler discussed his efforts to reform Michigan’s education system, focusing on property tax relief and school choice. He highlighted the introduction of the portable foundation grant and the impact of eliminating property taxes, which leveled funding across districts. Engler emphasized the importance of competition and innovation, citing the success of charter schools and the role of universities in authorizing them. He reflected on the challenges and legal battles faced, including the Michigan Supreme Court’s vindication of charter schools. Engler also stressed the need for transparency, accountability, and improving reading proficiency to ensure all children are well-educated.

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Governor Engler’s history with education.

What was driving competition and where did we have a monopoly?

The passage of the amendment that eliminates property taxes to fund public education.

What was going on in Ed reform?

What happened after he signed the legislation in August.

Schools without boundaries and the federal government.

What’s happening in other states with charter schools.

What’s changed in higher education since the reforms of the 90s.

How do you take the levers of government and create incentives that cause change?

What happens if a school goes out of business?

What do you make of the Michigan Supreme Court case?

Chartering and innovation in higher education.

If we put the kids first, how can any resistance stand against that?

Community colleges are ideally positioned to charter, at least if you were thinking of education reform.

Did you ever feel like you failed as a legislator?

If he could have a do-over, what would he do?

No funds on public funds for faith-based schools.

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